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West · 06-16-2010, 08:52 AM

The question on everyones mind isn't if the Toyota FT-86 will make it to production, but rather what its official name will be. We might have the answer, Toyota Motor Corporation recently filed a trademark for "FR-S" name in both the U.S. and Canada. Which would leave to question, will the FT-86 have a unique name in Japan/Europe/Asia markets.

The name certainly sounds like a contender. "FR" stands for front-rear as in, front-engine, rear-wheel drive. The "S" presumably would indicate sports car, as commonly used throughout the industry.

If true, expect Toyota to release good news soon!

Quote:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...004:asgbt9.2.1

Word Mark FR-S
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Automobiles and structural parts thereof
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85049145
Filing Date May 27, 2010
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Toyota Jidosha Kabushiki Kaisha TA Toyota Motor Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 1, Toyota-cho Toyota-shi, Aichi-ken JAPAN 471-8571
Attorney of Record Roberta S. Bren
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
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Rok Bee · 06-16-2010, 11:12 AM

Well, it leaves it open for other variants. FR-H Hybrid anyone?

Cal · 06-16-2010, 11:41 AM

I don't like it. FR is an engine-chassis layout, using it as a name just doesn't flow to me.

Exitspeed · 06-16-2010, 12:55 PM

I love it.

Jason · 06-16-2010, 04:37 PM

Lexus LF-A, Toyota FR-S. I'm seeing a pattern, this has to be the FT-86! I can't complain, I kind of like the name and the fact that's it won't be associated with any past models as many of us had speculated.

FT-Omnom · 06-17-2010, 11:51 PM

Finally some good news, I was getting worried. Now Toyota make this official so you can happily reach in my wallet and take my 20k +/- in exchange for an FR-S.

ej25ti · 06-18-2010, 10:08 PM

hmmm, i guess it sounds kinda badass

HyperFX · 06-18-2010, 10:35 PM

Thank goodness this website is not named ft86. Lol!

West · 06-19-2010, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperFX

Thank goodness this website is not named ft86. Lol!

Right! But do we move to a new domain based on FRS or do we stay true to our roots of off beat names?

Nemesis · 06-19-2010, 01:00 AM

I have to say I like FR-S, it still sounds awesome. now if we could only get some details about the final product while they road test it for the next year....

HyperFX · 06-19-2010, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West

Right! But do we move to a new domain based on FRS or do we stay true to our roots of off beat names?

This website has a very unique name. I've read many articles on the internet quoting "toyobaru" as a very credible source so keeping the original name sounds great. I like FR-S but I hope they bring out different badges (Mark iv etc.) much like the Supra.

Cal · 06-19-2010, 10:36 AM

^That plus the fact that their still is a Subaru lurking out there somewhere and a name based around FRS doesn't take in account Subaru.

0720Steve · 06-19-2010, 12:56 PM

time to start saving my pennies

ej25ti · 06-19-2010, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West

Right! But do we move to a new domain based on FRS or do we stay true to our roots of off beat names?

i kinda think if u dont someone else will

Cal · 06-20-2010, 09:04 AM

FRS .com is already taken as well as FRS.net. Neither of them having to do with cars.

ej25ti · 06-20-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cwrigh25

FRS .com is already taken as well as FRS.net. Neither of them having to do with cars.

toyotafrs.com?

Cal · 06-21-2010, 09:06 AM

^ Says it is taken.

I am sure people are scrambling to snatch domain names based off this name, but more than likely the question West posed was more of a joke than anything. I highly doubt he will actually change the name.

West · 06-21-2010, 09:38 AM

I actually own a few already, none that desirable. Although my hope is to still have a FR-S/216a centric site, if it happens there really isn't a need to rename. But my confidence in the 216a making it to production is dwindling.

itsmyturn · 06-27-2010, 07:14 PM

FR-S thats different....

ra23celica · 06-29-2010, 02:26 AM

If its not going to be called FR-S outside the US / Canada its a little bit of a waste to change this site. Toyobaru is getting around out there. Maybe a combination name ... "Toyobaru FR-S" or "Toyobaru incorporating FR-S" perhaps? Maybe I am getting a bit lame...
Anyway, its a very good idea to give it a name with no relation to any previous Toyota. It stops anyone coming along with any pre-concieved ideas / bad memories of any previous models. We have IS-F and LF-A getting around in Lexus land now. Toyota has been keen to have world-wide common names of late, so maybe it will be FR-S everywhere?

Cal · 06-29-2010, 11:23 AM

If you type in FR-S on google toyobaru comes up I think in 6th place.

ej25ti · 06-29-2010, 12:11 PM

I think the name of the site should be changed if worse comes to worst and we find out the 216a is a no go =/

lookitschloe · 07-06-2010, 01:12 AM

I don't know how to read this but what about this?

Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS)

Word Mark 86
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Automobiles and structural parts thereof
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85066441
Filing Date June 18, 2010
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Toyota Jidosha Kabushiki Kaisha TA Toyota Motor Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 1, Toyota-cho Toyota-shi, Aichi-ken JAPAN 471-8571
Attorney of Record Roberta S. Bren
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Looks like Toyota registered "86"? I thought you couldn't register a number though. Confused.

West · 07-06-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookitschloe

I don't know how to read this but what about this?

Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS)

Word Mark 86
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Automobiles and structural parts thereof
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 85066441
Filing Date June 18, 2010
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Toyota Jidosha Kabushiki Kaisha TA Toyota Motor Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 1, Toyota-cho Toyota-shi, Aichi-ken JAPAN 471-8571
Attorney of Record Roberta S. Bren
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

Looks like Toyota registered "86"? I thought you couldn't register a number though. Confused.

Nice find!!! This trademark is similar to the FR-S, "Automobiles and structural parts thereof". Now that just leaves to question what will the damn thing be called? Both were filed within a few weeks.

Yes you can trademark numbers, similar to Boeing with their 747.

ej25ti · 07-06-2010, 10:35 AM

when you have as much money as Toyota... you can trademark anything! lol

Trueno · 07-06-2010, 02:15 PM

I love this name.

I will get the G's model and name it Front Rear Gees. Or something equally as lame.

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lookitschloe Newbie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 18	I thought you couldn't register a number... I don't know how to read this but what about this? Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS) Word Mark 86 Goods and Services IC 012. US 019 021 023 031 035 044. G & S: Automobiles and structural parts thereof Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 85066441 Filing Date June 18, 2010 Current Filing Basis 1B Original Filing Basis 1B Owner (APPLICANT) Toyota Jidosha Kabushiki Kaisha TA Toyota Motor Corporation CORPORATION JAPAN 1, Toyota-cho Toyota-shi, Aichi-ken JAPAN 471-8571 Attorney of Record Roberta S. Bren Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE Looks like Toyota registered "86"? I thought you couldn't register a number though. Confused.

06-16-2010, 11:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rok Bee Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 26	Well, it leaves it open for other variants. FR-H Hybrid anyone?

06-16-2010, 04:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jason Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 46	Lexus LF-A, Toyota FR-S. I'm seeing a pattern, this has to be the FT-86! I can't complain, I kind of like the name and the fact that's it won't be associated with any past models as many of us had speculated.

06-17-2010, 11:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
FT-Omnom Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SD, CA Posts: 34	Finally some good news, I was getting worried. Now Toyota make this official so you can happily reach in my wallet and take my 20k +/- in exchange for an FR-S.

06-18-2010, 10:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
HyperFX Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 281 View Photos By: HyperFX	Thank goodness this website is not named ft86. Lol!

06-19-2010, 01:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nemesis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Unkown Posts: 100	I have to say I like FR-S, it still sounds awesome. now if we could only get some details about the final product while they road test it for the next year....

06-19-2010, 12:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
0720Steve Newbie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 10	time to start saving my pennies

06-27-2010, 07:14 PM	#19 (permalink)
itsmyturn Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1	FR-S thats different....

06-29-2010, 02:26 AM	#20 (permalink)
ra23celica Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Perth Western Australia Posts: 234	If its not going to be called FR-S outside the US / Canada its a little bit of a waste to change this site. Toyobaru is getting around out there. Maybe a combination name ... "Toyobaru FR-S" or "Toyobaru incorporating FR-S" perhaps? Maybe I am getting a bit lame... Anyway, its a very good idea to give it a name with no relation to any previous Toyota. It stops anyone coming along with any pre-concieved ideas / bad memories of any previous models. We have IS-F and LF-A getting around in Lexus land now. Toyota has been keen to have world-wide common names of late, so maybe it will be FR-S everywhere?

07-06-2010, 10:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
ej25ti Модератор Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Springfield, MA Age: 22 Posts: 1,319	when you have as much money as Toyota... you can trademark anything! lol __________________ 05' STi Team Scoobie Member

07-06-2010, 02:15 PM	#26 (permalink)
Trueno Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 30	I love this name. I will get the G's model and name it Front Rear Gees. Or something equally as lame.

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