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Old 08-07-2010, 10:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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wsup guys I finally decided to join after seeing the link to this forum at the top of zilvia I'm a forum whore so I decided why the hell not

I currently drive a Rally Red Mitsubishi Evo IX Gsr(flame suit on) and hopefully I'll get to learn some new stuff about ft-86/216a and meet some new people here on the boards

I'm a regular over on socalevo.net/evoM and if you guys want a MOD list of my car I will be glad to post it up as well

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cleannnn ass evo! welcome to the forums!
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Welcome to the site. Nice evo.
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Welcome from zilvia, I'm on there as well, future240, glad to have you on the site.
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thanks guys!!!

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Welcome! I wouldn't mind seeing the Mod list Its been awhile since Ive had the pleasure of tuning 4G63's.

Also, do you plan on getting a FT-86 or 216a?
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Welcome! I wouldn't mind seeing the Mod list Its been awhile since Ive had the pleasure of tuning 4G63's.

Also, do you plan on getting a FT-86 or 216a?
2006 Evo 9 GSR

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Mil.Spec Ported IX Turbo
Mil.Spec Ported Intake Manifold
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Mil.Spec Ported Invidia O2 Housing
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Cosworth M2 In/Ex Cams
Aem Intake w/ OEM Intake Snorkel
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Walbro Fuel Pump
Megan Racing Downpipe
RRE Rally Cat
RRE Stealth Exhaust
Nisei Competition 3.75" Intercooler
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E85

Only mods that changed for this retune where:

WGA
Crushed OEM bov
Ported OEM exh manifold

Same boost as before. 28.5 psi peak

+20 whp / +15 wtq

Another 400whp stock turbo Evo joins the E85 Army.

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For reference:

Highest power on a Evo 9 stock turbo so far on our dyno is 403 whp / 402wtq (E85). This had the car doing a 11.4@120 mph, full weight, street tires, 300lb driver.

320-330whp will do 11.9-12.0 @ 115ish with a really good driver, full weight Evo.

Stock 03/04 evo = 190-210whp

Stock 05 evo = 210-215whp

Stock 06 evo = 220-230whp

Stock 08 evo = 215-230whp

Stock 09 Ralliart = 190-199whp

Another 400 whp stock turbo Evo joins the E85 Army - evolutionm.net


if the FT-86 or 216a comes out at the right time for me then I will think about getting one
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awesome build! by far one of the cleanest most well done evos ive seen!
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I didn't know E85 makes that much more power than premium gas (93 over here). I will need to look into it.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I didn't know E85 makes that much more power than premium gas (93 over here). I will need to look into it.
yeah it's equivalent to ~105 octane depending how much ethanol there is which varies quite a bit during the different seasons of the year and could range anywhere from e70-e85. It's great because it allows you to run a leaner A/F, more timing and boost=massive gains on forced induction applications

yeah the difference between my 91oct power and e85 is MASSIVE. I made ~330whp/300wtq on Gst Mustang dyno @ 24psi on 91oct so it's about a 70whp gain on E85.

this was posted by Bryan @ Gst on the evoempire forums:

I was always curious what could be had with E85 without forced induction... Interesting results:

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Today we found some time to do some preliminary tuning on our GT3 with the help of Todd @ EVOMS.. We installed a set of E-85 Compatible Injectors earlier in the week and got it on the dyno today.. The initial mapping on the car was done on 93 octane to get an True Baseline.. We made Baseline pulls until the AF curve was perfect.. The result was 374whp / 277tq SAE Corrected.. The weather today was HORRIBLE for dyno testing with a storm outside and WET 60% Humidity in the air.. However back to back testing will still show the overall gains.. Maybe not the Greatest PEAK #'s but the gains are clear..

We emptied the tank and and poured in the E85 Fuel.. Todd and I discussed a Guesstimate on added fuel necessary and we made some initial pulls.. The car idled great and revved clean right off the bat.. We went back and forth adjusting maps to end up with 387whp / 289tq.. A gain of +13whp on FUEL alone NO TIMING ADDED..

The Current #'s reflect a small amount of tuning and still Great Gains.. The gas map is still richer than the E85 map which means there is much more on the Table with tuning A/F and not touching timing.. We had a line of cars behind mine today to tune so i had to pull the car off.. I would have loved to continue on to get same day results but I don't think that is going to happen.. Ill keep you guys Posted as things progress..

I'd Like to say Thanks to Alex @ Sharkwerks for the Hardware Necessary to Tune the car.. Also, Thanks to Todd Z for spending the time today swapping and analyzing maps for me.. Below is the current Dyno Chart...

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PART 2 UPDATE.. Results of Final Tweaking of Fuel and Timing Below.. +20whp PEAK w/ +26-30whp across the powerband..

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As you can see above 44 Dyno pulls w/ Todd's Help Tweaking Maps NON STOP.. Timing proved to pickup some power across the board along with the holding the power to redline..The car is responsive as can be and drives EXACTLY like it did on 93.. SMOOTH!!! All in all I am VERY HAPPY with what was accomplished here in 2 short days of tuning.. Finding 20whp Peak and 25-30whp across the powerband in a Motor setup that is already near MAXED from the factory is NOT EASY..

This is Round #1 of Testing.. We will add to this package The EVOMS 220g Crank pulley later this week and some other goodies we are not able to discuss just yet as Todd still has some testing going on.. Again I'd like to say Thanks to Alex @ Sharkwerks for the Hardware needed to tune the GT3 and the WICKED Track Exhaust system.. Still IMO the Best Sounding GT3 Exhaust on the market..

Stay Tuned.. Thanks!!




as you guys can see N/A cars gain a decent amount of power as well from switching over to e85


btw thanks for the comments everybody!!!!

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That is awesome info. I need to read up on E85 see if I can fit it into my plans for the S14.
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what engine are you running in your s14? SR? RB? KA? do you have upgraded internals or no? also what size injectors are you running?
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wow... where have i been, i wasn't aware of any of this e85 shit at all!
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wow... where have i been, i wasn't aware of any of this e85 shit at all!
it's been on evo forums for quite sometime now(2-3 years) haha time to convert the scoobie and gain some POWA
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what engine are you running in your s14? SR? RB? KA? do you have upgraded internals or no? also what size injectors are you running?
Stock motor right now. An RB25 with 555cc injectors will be *hopefully* be going in by march of next year. Stock internals with am Oem rebuild.
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Stock motor right now. An RB25 with 555cc injectors will be *hopefully* be going in by march of next year. Stock internals with am Oem rebuild.
if you're planning on running e85 I would suggest looking for much larger injectors somewhere between 800cc-1000cc
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haha i obv dont freqent the evo forums :P
but cool stuff!

and we swapped an rb25 into my roommates 240, ran real smooth... till we blew the turbo... but if you need any help on that i might be able to
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Do you need more E85 compared to petrol to get the same power / range you had previously?
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Welcome to the site! Wish there was E85 in Connecticut...but really no. There is some in NY but it's a drive! Nice eVo!
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