[ej25ti]

Originally Posted by pierceman

sti ftw......

x2........

[csusza2000]

Originally Posted by West

Toyota FT-86 Base (EJ20) = $21,000
Toyota FT-86 TRD (EJ20) = $23,000
Toyota FT-86 Turbo TRD (EJ20) = $26,000 (To be offered 2-3rd year)

well I guess that in European countries the prices will be the same just the currency will be the Euro. Which makes it a little bit more expensive for us. As I saw on some websites a few british journalist were predicting a price below 20k pounds for the FT-86. Well we will see abot that.

[ra23celica]

This needs to be less than $40,000 in Australia to be successful. There are some fast-ish cars priced at that point.

[Koppit]

You guys are lucky. I'm not sure that I can afford the car uppon release because:

Here in Norway we pay tax to register our cars. This tax is 25% of the cars price + tax for Weight, Power, and Pollution (CO2). I have tried to estimate the price of the FT here in Norway by using 160'000NOK (26000$) as base price and spec. from 2010 Golf GTI (as I suspect they won't be too diffrent). The result was 415'000NOK (67000$).

So I think the price here in Norway will be 55-75'000$ + Road tax.

In Denmark it might be worse, they pay 180% tax to register their cars.

[Cal]

Wow.

Perhaps Toyota will compensate for this tax and lower the price for those markets.

[ej25ti]

Everything in Norway is expensive!!!! lol

[Koppit]

Originally Posted by Cwrigh25

Wow.

Perhaps Toyota will compensate for this tax and lower the price for those markets.

No they don't compensate here, but they do in Denmark.

Yeah, it is expensive here. Norway is the most expensive country in the world according to the "Big-Mac Index".

[mick5994]

Originally Posted by csusza2000

well I guess that in European countries the prices will be the same just the currency will be the Euro. Which makes it a little bit more expensive for us. As I saw on some websites a few british journalist were predicting a price below 20k pounds for the FT-86. Well we will see abot that.

Not seen the prices for the FT-86, but the prices are starting to surface for the Subaru version. Prices expected to turn in at £22,000 for a 4WD version which is about 26,500 euros. Latest review was in Auto Car magazine. They say the FT-86 will be 2wd and cheaper but dont quote how much cheaper.

[eddied316]

That's not too bad. But I think I still like the Toyota version better

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Koppit

No they don't compensate here, but they do in Denmark.

Yeah, it is expensive here. Norway is the most expensive country in the world according to the "Big-Mac Index".

Again Wow.

For those who don't know the Big Mac Index.

I'm curious now, what are your prices for other things?

[Toyoriffic]

Toyota FT-86 Base = $20,000

Hello! I am new to the TOYOBARU website but of course I caught pictures of this car on the net a year or so ago and have been following it ever since. I am not a Toyota or Subaru fan by nature. I drive a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS and it will be hard to pry that car away from me, but, I love the body style of this Toyota FT-86.

I would want 4-doors, RWD, a kickin' straight-from-the factory stereo, A/C, power w/d/m's, nuthin' too fancy. But I'm setting a limit of about $20,000 for the base FT-86. And the fact that I'd like my FT-86 with a 6-speed manual tranny should only help to keep the cost to be a little lower even more.

[San Diego Kouki]

Anyone with car buying/selling experience know what Monthly payments would look like for me if I put 15,000 down and have a really good co-signer?

[modifiedMR]

Originally Posted by San Diego Kouki

Anyone with car buying/selling experience know what Monthly payments would look like for me if I put 15,000 down and have a really good co-signer?

if it's 25k and you put 15k on it. There's about 2k in sales tax or so to bring it to 12k on a loan. 12k payments for 5 years is something like $200/month or so. I had a loan for 11xxx and it was like 180/month, but that was in 2003. Interest rates should be lower.

If my calculations are right, I think it's about $18/month for every $1000 you get a loan for on a car with an interest rate of 5%. Toyota/Scion doesn't usually do special deals for rates and what not, like 0% for a loan.

Norway is messed up. I'd get out asap! lol. Europe seems to be going down the tubes lately. Although, the US is headed that way it seems.

I hope it goes like this:
Scion model: $24k even and lots of crazy options. Fully loaded for $29k
Subaru base: $26k same engine/tranny, but has some of the sport options.
Subaru STI: $30k with turbo and lower CR engine (250-280 hp), same tranny and fully loaded at $39k

[ej25ti]

Norway is not messed up. just from one terrorist attack from some lunatics. Actually Norway is further ahead of the world in A LOT of aspects! Look at any index

Aw, just looked up, I miss the FT-86 I =/

[Cal]

Originally Posted by modifiedMR

if it's 25k and you put 15k on it. There's about 2k in sales tax or so to bring it to 12k on a loan. 12k payments for 5 years is something like $200/month or so. I had a loan for 11xxx and it was like 180/month, but that was in 2003. Interest rates should be lower.

If my calculations are right, I think it's about $18/month for every $1000 you get a loan for on a car with an interest rate of 5%. Toyota/Scion doesn't usually do special deals for rates and what not, like 0% for a loan.

Norway is messed up. I'd get out asap! lol. Europe seems to be going down the tubes lately. Although, the US is headed that way it seems.

I hope it goes like this:
Scion model: $24k even and lots of crazy options. Fully loaded for $29k
Subaru base: $26k same engine/tranny, but has some of the sport options.
Subaru STI: $30k with turbo and lower CR engine (250-280 hp), same tranny and fully loaded at $39k

Great post, the only thing I can add to this, is that you can take out an auto loan for a new vehicle up to 7 years.

[San Diego Kouki]

Thanks a lot modified mr

[modifiedMR]

Originally Posted by San Diego Kouki

Thanks a lot modified mr

no problem!

I just hope this car falls right below the wrx price point. It should be more basic as far as moving components and less actual material in the car being smaller. It's hard to tell though, because look at the Lotus Elise. Very basic and even sources a Toyota 2zz powertrain, but is 40k. I really like the elise, but not for 40k. I'd probably own one if it were 10k less. I'm not a fan of the zz powertrains though. Had a 1zz celica and like the car, but it just didn't like how I drove it.

[KnightCrawler]

So this thread was started 2 years ago (2009)!!
Have your price quotes changed much from 2 years ago?
Have they gone up or down ?
Why do you think the price change has come about?

[ej25ti]

Originally Posted by ej25ti

Wow, you guys have some low prices! Espescially for the STi models! Subaru would never offer it that cheap with all of the STi options it would have on it.... hence the cost of the current STi...
Also... the base genesis coupe seems pretty comparable to what the bas FT-86 might be... and that starts at $22k.

Even though it's not exactly what I would want, this is my best guess...

Toyota FT-86 Base (EJ253): $22,000
??Toyota FT-86x (AWD EJ253): $24,000
Toyota FT-86 GT (EJ255): $27,000 offered 1 year after production

Subaru 086a WRX (EJ255): $25,000
Subaru 086a STi (EJ257): $32,000 offered 1 year after production

these were my prices from 2009
lol FT-86x, but hey we didnt know shit back then
also EJ's lol
um, since it's a Scion im gonna go with

Scion FR-S Base: $21,900
Subaru BRZ Base: $23,000
Subaru BRZ STI: $29,500 (still offered a year or so after production)

[modifiedMR]

Originally Posted by ej25ti

these were my prices from 2009
lol FT-86x, but hey we didnt know shit back then
also EJ's lol
um, since it's a Scion im gonna go with

Scion FR-S Base: $21,900
Subaru BRZ Base: $23,000
Subaru BRZ STI: $29,500 (still offered a year or so after production)

This is about what I was thinking, but a bit higher on the base models. Although, how many would buy a base model for 23-24k, when they can get a STI version for under 30k? If they make a turbo STI for under 30k, the 370z, mustang, genesis and camaro sales will drop. It would be the most bang for your buck car on the market. I have a feeling though, it'll be 32+ K for the STI, which starts to put it outta my price range right now.

[ej25ti]

Originally Posted by modifiedMR

This is about what I was thinking, but a bit higher on the base models. Although, how many would buy a base model for 23-24k, when they can get a STI version for under 30k? If they make a turbo STI for under 30k, the 370z, mustang, genesis and camaro sales will drop. It would be the most bang for your buck car on the market. I have a feeling though, it'll be 32+ K for the STI, which starts to put it outta my price range right now.

i think a lot of people will buy the base
either those that plan to mod themselves or people that dont really care about hp
i think i see more 2.5 altima coupes than 3.5... so theyre looking for a sporty looking car, but dont care enough for the extra hp... or dont have the extra cash i guess
normally id put a bigger gap between the the two brz models... but when you are comparing a base impreza with an sti, the base impreza is strictly econo. the brz will already be a sports car so i assume it will already have a certain amount of features, the STI will prob just make up for it in hp, prob tranny and brakes, minor looks, and the optional wheels will be standard, 18" i assume?

[KnightCrawler]

The BRZ STi model is going to surpass 32-34k imo...is it worth that much considering the EVO/Impreza STi/and a few other cars that have alot more HP and other features the 86 wont have, the BRZ STi should be around the 26-27k mark due t0 the fact the Genesis 2.0T is pretty much the same car..
Also the base model Scion FR86 will be around 2-3k over where it should be ( 17-18k)
A Dodge Caliber would be a better choice than a base FR at this point of minimal info that we are getting from Scion/Toyota.

[ej25ti]

Originally Posted by KnightCrawler

The BRZ STi model is going to surpass 32-34k imo...is it worth that much considering the EVO/Impreza STi/and a few other cars that have alot more HP and other features the 86 wont have, the BRZ STi should be around the 26-27k mark due t0 the fact the Genesis 2.0T is pretty much the same car..
Also the base model Scion FR86 will be around 2-3k over where it should be ( 17-18k)

the Scion will defff be over $20, the tC starts at 19

and I also believe the BRZ STI would be cheaper than a WRX STI, esp lacking AWD
imo

[modifiedMR]

I will never buy a dodge. I would rather have a Kia or even a Diahatsu. Or a huffy. LOL.

BRZ STi for 29k would be sweet. If it's less than 30k, it will sell very well. They would already have 1 buyer.

[ej25ti]

Originally Posted by modifiedMR

They would already have 1 buyer.

2

[silentheart]

FRS and BRZ
Base=$2395 USD
BRZ with Sports package=$2645

[Cal]

Originally Posted by modifiedMR

I will never buy a dodge. I would rather have a Kia or even a Diahatsu. Or a huffy. LOL.

BRZ STi for 29k would be sweet. If it's less than 30k, it will sell very well. They would already have 1 buyer.

Originally Posted by ej25ti

2

Make that three buyers.

[modifiedMR]

Originally Posted by silentheart

FRS and BRZ
Base=$2395 USD
BRZ with Sports package=$2645

sports package? STi? turbo or non-turbo.

I think the biggest question is, will there be a turbo version of either? At least for me that's the biggest, unless of course cost is over 32k, which is very possible.

You know, it would be nice if they did do an enthusiast model and actually didn't mark it up much to improve their image. I mean, think about it, it's a great marketing tool to get people in the show room and why not? You get some in and think, oooh that's nice, but IDK rwd? I'll get a tC 'cause it's kinda sporty. Subaru, same thing, oh that's cool, but I'd really like to have that awd STi and it's got 4 doors. I know Toyota does this with the LFA and actually loses money on them, but could you imagine instead of one LFA around, people see a ft86 variant daily for a good price. They'd be like Camry's. A 20k base and 26k turbo would rock and they'd probably still make a little change on them. What am I kidding? They're going to rake us over coals for 'em.

[Toyoriffic]

Just a little review is all.

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by silentheart

FRS and BRZ
Base=$2395 USD
BRZ with Sports package=$2645

Sweet! I already have enough saved up to buy three of each!