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ej25ti · 11-12-2009, 12:32 PM

Should Toyota also offer a more powerful engine for the FT-086a??

Exitspeed · 11-12-2009, 02:18 PM

I don't want this car to have a V6 actually. It'll make it more expensive, and heavier. I want this thing to be light, well balanced and not a high HP car stock. If I wanted a RWD coupe with a V6 I'd just get a 370z.

West · 11-12-2009, 06:22 PM

Yea, the thing I like about the use of the boxer is it's ability to add some center of gravity benifits. I'd take a modern 2jz though

ej25ti · 11-12-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by West

I'd take a modern 2jz though

yeah, that's what i was kinda thinkin i guess

ra23celica · 11-16-2009, 01:31 AM

Would like to see this with a 2ZZ-GE with the ECU from Lotus, but that is just a dream.

Commandod9 · 11-24-2009, 07:49 PM

I think the EJ25 turbo would have enough power but it would be kinda cool to see the 3.0 twin turbo engine that they have over in japan

SUPRAtruc2JZGE · 12-30-2009, 04:50 PM

Turbo Boxer get my vote!

G4BROKE · 01-01-2010, 10:45 AM

The FT-86 is to come with a 2.0L, what benefit will a 2.5L boxer give it? I don't believe much; even worth as an option. Toyota should work out a power plant that's light and a minimum of 3.0L w/ D4 injection for an engine option. Just a thought.

ej25ti · 01-02-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by G4BROKE

The FT-86 is to come with a 2.0L, what benefit will a 2.5L boxer give it? I don't believe much; even worth as an option. Toyota should work out a power plant that's light and a minimum of 3.0L w/ D4 injection for an engine option. Just a thought.

the 2.5L i was referring to was obviously the ej25... and while JDM 2.0Ls may have some benefits, the 2.5L does have room for potential
the only reason they kept it 2.0L in the first place was to meet WRC specs

lol, and apparently im the only person who would be a fan of a 2GR-FSE option, not that i dont like boxers... i have one myself

G4BROKE · 01-03-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ej25ti

the 2.5L i was referring to was obviously the ej25... and while JDM 2.0Ls may have some benefits, the 2.5L does have room for potential
the only reason they kept it 2.0L in the first place was to meet WRC specs
lol, and apparently im the only person who would be a fan of a 2GR-FSE option, not that i dont like boxers... i have one myself

Just saying 2.0L H4 => 2.5L H4, not really big change.... Say 2.0L H4 => 3.3L H6, yeah sure... or 2.5L H4 => 3.6L H6........and these already for Subarus. Just believe engine option should be a larger significants to power etc.

Wouldn't mind the 2GR-FSE but the FT-86 is gonna be small right? Guess we'll eventually see what the ultimate plan will be.

Meanwhile....power from 2.0L H4 (if seen before ignore - a bit old)

Roger Clark Motorsports

SUPRAtruc2JZGE · 01-04-2010, 03:11 PM

Man for some reason I don't care about the engine I just want this beast out of the production lol!!! This FT or E is very sex!!

ej25ti · 01-04-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by G4BROKE

Just saying 2.0L H4 => 2.5L H4, not really big change.... Say 2.0L H4 => 3.3L H6, yeah sure... or 2.5L H4 => 3.6L H6........and these already for Subarus. Just believe engine option should be a larger significants to power etc.

I wasn't trying to say that 2.5Ls are better than 2.0Ls.
What I was basically trying to ask is would you rather have an EJ253 or an EJ257??
...
lol that's what i thought

G4BROKE · 01-04-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ej25ti

I wasn't trying to say that 2.5Ls are better than 2.0Ls.
What I was basically trying to ask is would you rather have an EJ253 or an EJ257??
...
lol that's what i thought

Well...that just changes everything...surely things are awry.

Я думаю, нам больше ничего не надо комментировать.

burninskulls0911 · 08-15-2010, 11:06 PM

hell yeah! they should offer something with V-TAKKKK

ej25ti · 08-15-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by G4BROKE

Well...that just changes everything...surely things are awry.

Я думаю, нам больше ничего не надо комментировать.

haha, navernoe

lol leave me alone im bored

Quote:

Originally Posted by burninskulls0911

hell yeah! they should offer something with V-TAKKKK

obviously!!

West · 08-31-2010, 01:37 AM

Just give me a 2.0l Turbo, Ill take it from there. The 2.5 would be nice for NA though.

All I hope for is an engine that isn't overly controlled by the ECU, the Celica was notorious for this. You could add mods and such to the little 1.8 VVT-i and it would auto adjust and null most gains. Or at least the motor was so precisely tuned that no significant gain could be achieved.

While I think engine swaps will be a big possibility for the FT-86, we wont have many crazy options due to the small bay. Then again, money buys all.

ej25ti · 08-31-2010, 12:08 PM

WELL
until recently i was all only for the subie version...
but i was thinking last night how cool it would be to have the first 2jz gte toyota ft86
... so
hmm lol

ra23celica · 09-01-2010, 02:49 AM

I think the engine bay will be too short for any form of 6 cylinder engine, but if its wide enough for a boxer 4, I would love to slot a supercharged 1,2 or 3UZ in there instead...(can someone say, 'lead tipped arrow')?

ProZach626 · 09-01-2010, 07:54 AM

I say just put a snail option on the 2.0. Nothing crazy. Just something good for 40-50 horses.

Tweek · 10-13-2010, 01:08 PM

2GR. ftw.
Boxter RWD would get pricey

MrVito · 05-17-2011, 08:11 AM

I can almost guarantee that certain shops will have an EJ25/20 swapped into one of these cars within hours of getting their hands on one. AFAIK the bellhousing pattern is the same on the FB engines as it is on the EJ series, so weld up a custom exhaust manifold, downpipe, and call it a day. heck, I'm considering purchasing a spare JDM ej207, doing a light build, and having it ready for when I get bored of driving this N/A.

modifiedMR · 05-23-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrVito

I can almost guarantee that certain shops will have an EJ25/20 swapped into one of these cars within hours of getting their hands on one. AFAIK the bellhousing pattern is the same on the FB engines as it is on the EJ series, so weld up a custom exhaust manifold, downpipe, and call it a day. heck, I'm considering purchasing a spare JDM ej207, doing a light build, and having it ready for when I get bored of driving this N/A.

^i like your thinking!

or just save some cash for some cheaper off the shelf units. i bet hks, cobb, etc. will have stuff for these cars within months of release.

me, i'm hoping there is a t3 footprinted turbo option that i'll upgrade after being out of warranty.

ra23celcia> why a 2zz? they are weak. no torque, hard to mod and not as durable as the boxers. if anything, i would love to see a hardcore turbo model from the fb20 or fb25.

anyone who wants a v engine in this is going to mess up it's handling. that or an inline four will throw it off. you don't need alot of torque in a sub 3000 lb car either. more likely to burn rubber than go anywhere, unless you run some huge/sticky tires. I'd prefer a mix of turbo and high rpm na power. 8K redline and 12-15 lbs of boost will make for some fun!

ej25ti · 05-24-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by modifiedMR

^i like your thinking!

or just save some cash for some cheaper off the shelf units. i bet hks, cobb, etc. will have stuff for these cars within months of release.

me, i'm hoping there is a t3 footprinted turbo option that i'll upgrade after being out of warranty.

ra23celcia> why a 2zz? they are weak. no torque, hard to mod and not as durable as the boxers. if anything, i would love to see a hardcore turbo model from the fb20 or fb25.

anyone who wants a v engine in this is going to mess up it's handling. that or an inline four will throw it off. you don't need alot of torque in a sub 3000 lb car either. more likely to burn rubber than go anywhere, unless you run some huge/sticky tires. I'd prefer a mix of turbo and high rpm na power. 8K redline and 12-15 lbs of boost will make for some fun!

minus HKS, at least for the american model lol

HyperFX · 05-25-2011, 09:59 AM

Initially i thought that the 2.0L was too weak, but after looking at the tricked out Hyabusa engineSmart for two, i remember the fancy phrase ,"power to weight ratio".

modifiedMR · 05-25-2011, 10:54 AM

yeah, 2 liters are weak........

YouTube - ‪MR2liter 2step and some bullshit pulls. - Car Videos on StreetFire.flv‬&rlm;

YouTube - ‪T88 MR2liter 1st time to the track‬&rlm;

just a regular impreza? hahaha. 2.0 L of fury......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUCBxRdadMc

http://www.streetfire.net/video/TIME...0HP_193091.htm

AWD cars, the only cars where going off road might help make lap times shorter. lol

I'll take a 2.0L turbo FB engine please.

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West Toyobaruator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO Age: 31 Posts: 1,787 View Photos By: West	Yea, the thing I like about the use of the boxer is it's ability to add some center of gravity benifits. I'd take a modern 2jz though __________________ Toyobaru.net Homepage - Toyobaru.net Gallery Follow us on Twitter - Join our Facebook Group

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SUPRAtruc2JZGE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SGV Age: 37 Posts: 117	Man for some reason I don't care about the engine I just want this beast out of the production lol!!! This FT or E is very sex!! __________________ Toyota Supra '95 5Speed N/A TargaTop LemansBlue

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ra23celica Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Perth Western Australia Posts: 234	Would like to see this with a 2ZZ-GE with the ECU from Lotus, but that is just a dream.

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Commandod9 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 4	I think the EJ25 turbo would have enough power but it would be kinda cool to see the 3.0 twin turbo engine that they have over in japan

12-30-2009, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
SUPRAtruc2JZGE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SGV Age: 37 Posts: 117	Turbo Boxer get my vote!

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G4BROKE Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Connecticut Age: 42 Posts: 252 View Photos By: G4BROKE	The FT-86 is to come with a 2.0L, what benefit will a 2.5L boxer give it? I don't believe much; even worth as an option. Toyota should work out a power plant that's light and a minimum of 3.0L w/ D4 injection for an engine option. Just a thought.

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burninskulls0911 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 14	hell yeah! they should offer something with V-TAKKKK

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West Toyobaruator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO Age: 31 Posts: 1,787 View Photos By: West	Just give me a 2.0l Turbo, Ill take it from there. The 2.5 would be nice for NA though. All I hope for is an engine that isn't overly controlled by the ECU, the Celica was notorious for this. You could add mods and such to the little 1.8 VVT-i and it would auto adjust and null most gains. Or at least the motor was so precisely tuned that no significant gain could be achieved. While I think engine swaps will be a big possibility for the FT-86, we wont have many crazy options due to the small bay. Then again, money buys all. __________________ Toyobaru.net Homepage - Toyobaru.net Gallery Follow us on Twitter - Join our Facebook Group

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ej25ti Модератор Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Springfield, MA Age: 22 Posts: 1,322	WELL until recently i was all only for the subie version... but i was thinking last night how cool it would be to have the first 2jz gte toyota ft86 ... so hmm lol __________________ 05' STi Team Scoobie Member

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ra23celica Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Perth Western Australia Posts: 234	I think the engine bay will be too short for any form of 6 cylinder engine, but if its wide enough for a boxer 4, I would love to slot a supercharged 1,2 or 3UZ in there instead...(can someone say, 'lead tipped arrow')?

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ProZach626 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 146	I say just put a snail option on the 2.0. Nothing crazy. Just something good for 40-50 horses.

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Tweek Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5	2GR. ftw. Boxter RWD would get pricey

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05-17-2011, 08:11 AM	#21 (permalink)
MrVito Newbie Join Date: May 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 26	I can almost guarantee that certain shops will have an EJ25/20 swapped into one of these cars within hours of getting their hands on one. AFAIK the bellhousing pattern is the same on the FB engines as it is on the EJ series, so weld up a custom exhaust manifold, downpipe, and call it a day. heck, I'm considering purchasing a spare JDM ej207, doing a light build, and having it ready for when I get bored of driving this N/A.

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HyperFX Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 282 View Photos By: HyperFX	Initially i thought that the 2.0L was too weak, but after looking at the tricked out Hyabusa engineSmart for two, i remember the fancy phrase ,"power to weight ratio".

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modifiedMR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL Age: 27 Posts: 442	yeah, 2 liters are weak........ YouTube - ‪MR2liter 2step and some bullshit pulls. - Car Videos on StreetFire.flv‬&rlm; YouTube - ‪T88 MR2liter 1st time to the track‬&rlm; just a regular impreza? hahaha. 2.0 L of fury...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUCBxRdadMc http://www.streetfire.net/video/TIME...0HP_193091.htm AWD cars, the only cars where going off road might help make lap times shorter. lol I'll take a 2.0L turbo FB engine please. __________________ 91 hardtop mr2 turbo Last edited by modifiedMR; 05-25-2011 at 12:44 PM.